Your question actually gets me to reveal what I think should be the proper way to go about this.
First, I agree with my colleague John Whyte that there should be proper consultations done with all the provinces. To my knowledge that hasn't been done, despite the fact that the federal government, as I said, has bestowed the notion that the Québécois are a nation and yet at the same time ignores the request from the Quebec government to engage in consultations. I know that Quebec, for example, is so serious about this legislation that they may even take it to court, as will some other provinces.
It starts with proper consultations with the different partners in Confederation. I think we're mandated to do that anyway by the legislation we passed in the wake of the referendum, when we promised to consult all the regions of Canada on a constitutional amendment.
Second, I think we have to look at thinking outside the box. I think Madam Guarnieri will remember that one of the things I liked about the Charlottetown accord was the possibility of having an interim stage of indirect elections to the Senate via the provincial legislatures, with the consent of the House of Commons and the Senate.
There was consensus there. When people say that proper reform could never be reached, they ignore the fact that in the Charlottetown accord there was national consensus on an indirect form of election to the Senate. That shows that it can be done.