Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you, Mr. Gibbins.
You've been around this debate for a long time. By saying that an incremental change doesn't go far enough, isn't perfect enough, is lacking in some way, and we need to wait until we can create the perfect system where everybody agrees and we're all onside and at some point in the future we have to come up with this perfect method--isn't that just another way of saying we're not going to get anything done in light of the complexities of our country and how Parliament works and how the Senate works, and intergovernmental relations? Isn't the argument that we shouldn't advance this bill because in someone's view it doesn't go far enough or it's not perfect just another way of saying let's not do anything, for the critics of the bill you hear about?