Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Can I go back, Mr. Fraser, to something you said, and maybe get some response from Mr. Gagnier afterwards?
I thought I heard you imply that participating in international carbon markets would accelerate the offshoring of steel manufacturing in other countries. I think you made some remarks about the verifiability and trustworthiness of the clean development mechanisms. We now know that there are over 500 international projects under the clean development mechanism, including 12 or 13 out of Canada. We had TransAlta tell us just the other day that their own CFO, corporate board of directors, shareholders, and investors would never let them get away with fraudulent or financially unsound projects.
So let me just get something straight. There are 168 signatories to the Kyoto Protocol. There are about 184 countries internationally in total. Can you give me some indication of which countries that you referred to are not signatories to the Kyoto process and would be seeking to cheat, using your language?