Evidence of meeting #21 for Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

John Moffet  Acting Director General, Legislation and Regulatory Affairs, Environmental Stewardship Branch, Department of the Environment
Joann Garbig  Procedural Clerk

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON

To some degree, if I may answer that, that is anticipated by the words under (c), which start with Kyoto “as amended from time to time”. Unless one is anticipating an entirely different system that does not relate to the United Nations Framework Convention, I think we've captured that evolution that covers the post-Kyoto period. That would be my only reaction. I might be persuaded, but I think we've covered it.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

We'll go to Mr. Jean for a quick point.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

It's a very quick point. I think, Mr. Cullen, the reality is that if any country in the world does not abide by Kyoto--and they have their own system that they may believe is better, or their own trading mechanism that they believe is better--then they're not playing in the Liberals' ball game.

We proposed an amendment that would include any international agreement that Canada is a signatory to or had ratified. We could even look at other wording, but we believe that since the countries that are part of Kyoto produce only 30% of the greenhouse gas emissions in the world and other countries produce the remaining 70%, certainly if those countries were going to join Kyoto, they would have done so by now. But they're moving in other directions. They're ratifying other things. The G-8 plus 5 is looking, I believe, at next June in relation to their targets and setting some short-term and medium-term targets. As well, there are other agreements going on around the world, and I think--and quite frankly, this government thinks--that we should look at all opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and all opportunities to trade if indeed they will mean a reduction in greenhouse gases. But let's call the vote and get to it.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

Are we ready for the question? The question is on Liberal amendment L-20, for new clause 14.1.

(Amendment agreed to)

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

Now it is one o'clock, but perhaps we could whip through three because there are no amendments.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Mr. Chair, I have another meeting I have to go to.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

We have other meetings. This meeting is adjourned.