Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) Committee on March 27th, 2007

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

I need a moment to catch up with your torrid pace, Chair.

[The Chair, Conservative, Laurie Hawn]

I'm sorry, Mr. Cullen. Could you hang on for half a second? We may have pre-empted this one; NDP-23 goes back to something that was in clause 18.

Mr. Cullen, because NDP-23 was consequential to NDP-20, which was negated by the passing of clause 18, NDP-23 is off the table.

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

I just wanted to make sure of that, Chair.

I know that's going to happen a number of times, but we don't want to lose things without being certain.

[The Chair, Conservative, Laurie Hawn]

No. Absolutely.

We'll go to L-22. I don't have a page number for that; it's right after L-21.1.

[John Godfrey, Liberal, Don Valley West, ON]

Mr. Chair, this is simply a consequential amendment to the things we have done previously.

[The Chair, Conservative, Laurie Hawn]

Mr. McGuinty, are you prepared to address that one?

[David McGuinty, Liberal, Ottawa South, ON]

As my colleague said, Mr. Chair, this is simply a series of amendments that flow from previous amendments. I think they're quite self-explanatory. Unless there is further debate, I'm hoping to simply call for the vote.

[The Chair, Conservative, Laurie Hawn]

We agreed to some changes in a previous amendment. Does this still line up, or have you had a chance to have a look at it?

[David McGuinty, Liberal, Ottawa South, ON]

That's an interesting question.

[John Godfrey, Liberal, Don Valley West, ON]

In other words, you mean was the numbering affected by...? Let's just check that out. Okay, so the first one--

[David McGuinty, Liberal, Ottawa South, ON]

We'll need a moment.

[The Chair, Conservative, Laurie Hawn]

Okay. We'll suspend for a minute or so.

Mr. Godfrey.

[John Godfrey, Liberal, Don Valley West, ON]

Chair, the suggestion is that we stand this. Rather than trying to line up—It has to do with the NDP amendment. We want to make sure everything squares off. We don't want to do it on the fly. That would not be helpful.

So if we can stand this, we will try to reconcile that with professional help.

[The Chair, Conservative, Laurie Hawn]

All right, let's move on.

(Clause 22 allowed to stand)

(Clause 23 agreed to)

(On clause 24)

[The Chair, Conservative, Laurie Hawn]

We're going to have a similar situation with the next clause, clause 24.

Mr. Cullen, would I be correct in assuming that you will not be proceeding with amendment NDP-24?

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

You are correct, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Conservative, Laurie Hawn]

Okay. Amendment NDP-24 is not moved.

Mr. McGuinty, will you want to stand amendment L-23, in clause 24, for the same reason?

[David McGuinty, Liberal, Ottawa South, ON]

In the interest of getting this accurate, of course, Mr. Chair, I think it would be very wise.

(Clause 24 allowed to stand)

(Clauses 25 and 26 agreed to)

[The Chair, Conservative, Laurie Hawn]

We will move on to clause 27.

Mr. Godfrey.

[John Godfrey, Liberal, Don Valley West, ON]

We're going at a very impressive rate here.

I think we want to pause here. May we go back to clause 25? I apologize, but we were still sorting it out.

My understanding of this is that it's basically redundant. We already have air pollutants and greenhouse gases included with toxic substances under CEPA, right? Maybe we need an explanation of this.

[The Chair, Conservative, Laurie Hawn]

Because the clause has been carried, we'll need unanimous consent to go back and even say what you're saying.

[John Godfrey, Liberal, Don Valley West, ON]

Okay. Well, redundant is better than lousy.

[The Chair, Conservative, Laurie Hawn]

Unless we have unanimous consent to go back and reopen clause 25, we're finished with clause 25. Are you seeking unanimous consent?

Okay, it sounds to me like we're moving on.

We're now at clause 27.

(On clause 27)

[The Chair, Conservative, Laurie Hawn]

We believe this is one that we may be able to address.

The first amendment is BQ-14 on page 47.

[Bernard Bigras, Bloc, Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC]

Mr. Chairman, amendment BQ-14 is related to amendment BQ-15. In view of the decisions that we have made concerning the independent agency, the Green Investment Bank of Canada, we would withdraw the obligation to issue a tradeable unit to the minister. That is the purpose of amendment BQ-14.

Later I will say to whom the units will be remitted, since, pursuant to what we've agreed to up to now, we've created an independent agency. So amendment BQ-14 would eliminate the obligation to remit a tradeable unit to the minister.

I could explain amendment BQ-15 later.