Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I have to comment on this because of something that Mr. McGuinty said. He said that the refineries were going to be excluded, and as was pointed out by one of my colleagues, indeed it may be that he was trying to exclude them from being double-dipped.
I want to make sure I get on the record that the Library of Parliament does an excellent job at what they do. They provided me with a report on Canadian oil production and refineries—selected statistics. It came as a shock to me, quite frankly, to find with respect to some of the refinery data that, in particular, nine refineries are in Ontario and there are only six in the entire west. I'm hoping that it's not his purpose to exclude refineries, especially given that when we look at it more particularly, carbon monoxide in tonnes in Ontario is almost three times that of Alberta. In Ontario it's two times as much oxides of nitrogen. Total particulate matter is three times more. There's four times more particulate matter in 10 microns or less. There's four times more particulate matter in 2.5 microns or less, and sulphur dioxide of 10 times more in refineries in Ontario than in Alberta.
I want to clarify what is said on the record, because of course judges look at and hear what we say. I want to make sure that the clauses in particular are just making sure there's no double-dip of refineries and it's being fair to all industrial emitters, because he did indeed say that refineries would be excluded. I do want that confirmed on the record by Mr. McGuinty if that's his intention. Certainly refineries in eastern Canada, and in Quebec in particular, pollute much more than the ones in the west.
I'd like that on the record, please.