Evidence of meeting #25 for Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

John Moffet  Acting Director General, Legislation and Regulatory Affairs, Environmental Stewardship Branch, Department of the Environment
Michel Arès  Legal Counsel, Department of Justice

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

BQ-4 on new clause 4.1 is not moved.

We'll move on to clause 5, which starts with NDP-11 on page 18.

Mr. Cullen.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Thank you, Chair.

This is the equivalency section for members as we catch up. We won't be moving our particular section, but if you seek it there may be some agreement to have different wording placed in the act that meets some of the needs and addresses the concerns we had with respect to the difference between equivalency of regulation and equivalency of effect.

I might turn it over to some of the government members to propose some language.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

Mr. Warawa, are you prepared to address that?

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

Thank you. I appreciate this opportunity.

We definitely want to provide clarification on equivalency, so we've provided an amendment. I'll read it into the record here.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

I appreciate what's going on, but I didn't realize this was a government amendment. There are three amendments ahead of this. We may get through them very quickly here.

Mr. Cullen, are you moving NDP-11?

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

No. Do we have new language on the table?

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

We will, but we have a couple of steps to go through first.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Okay. I will not move NDP-11.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

There is a new amendment coming with the wording we talked about.

Next is NDP-12.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Give me just a moment on that one.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

We will take a few minutes while we're waiting for copies. There needs to be a bit of chat across the floor here.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

Are we ready to roll? Hearing no nays, I'll call us back in session. We are back on amendment NDP-12.

Mr. Cullen.

9:20 a.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I didn't move amendment NDP-12, in order to allow the government to move its--

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

You didn't move amendment NDP-11 in order to do that, but amendment NDP-12 is the next one.

9:20 a.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

It's the same.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

Okay, NDP-12 is not moved.

We have two more to get to before we get to that.

9:20 a.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I see, it won't be called till later.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

It's coming right up.

On amendment L-18, Mr. McGuinty.

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Again, Mr. Chair, this is basically to make sure we're jibing with the amendments we put into clause 18, so it's more of a technical amendment.

I was just going to ask if there's a line conflict between this one and the amendment put forward by....

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

There was, but amendment L-18 could be put only if amendments NDP-11 and NDP-12 were negatived. Amendments NDP-11 and NDP-12 were not moved, so there is no conflict.

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Then is it possible to stand this one, Mr. Chair, until after we hear from the government and have more of a merits-based debate about the equivalency provisions?

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

Okay, we will stand amendment L-18.

(Amendment allowed to stand)

Amendment BQ-5 is next in the batting order.

Mr. Bigras.

9:20 a.m.

Bloc

Bernard Bigras Bloc Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I will stand amendment BQ-5 until we have discussed the government's amendment.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

We are being requested to stand amendment BQ-5 until the government amendment. Is that agreed?

(Amendment allowed to stand)

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Laurie Hawn

Now we are at government amendments G-4 and G-5. You won't have amendments G-4 and G-5 on there. Amendment G-4 is the bigger one that talks about replacing lines 4 to 5. Amendment G-5 is the smaller one that talks about adding something after line 9.

Mr. Warawa, the floor is yours. Could you read it slowly to help out the interpreters, please?