It has been asked a number of times, but perhaps you can get back to us with an answer. The issue on new fleet and reduction of greenhouse gas emissions is not clear at all. Basically we're told that 1% of the 12% is new cars, but the real question is if you were....
I agree with Mr. Ogilvie. It is a stretch to believe that overnight you could replace all the vehicles in Canada. Everybody would agree with that. But just so we have a basis of what kind of difference it would or wouldn't make, if all the vehicles were replaced, then what would that 12% be? Would it still be 12%, or would it be some other number? It certainly wouldn't be 1%. There was some impression that it would be 1%. I don't think it would. If we could have that number, it would be helpful, because it would determine the usefulness of focusing on new fleet, as it pertains to greenhouse gas emissions.
On the comment “don't pick winners and losers”, I agree with that notion, in a broader context. Maybe you, as a panel, could help me with the following problem. We have serious infrastructure issues in terms of bringing either new fuel forward or outlets to deliver that fuel. Let me give you some examples. If we're talking about going in the direction of biodiesel, then obviously we have to find ways to ramp up production and find locations to distribute that biodiesel. If we go the route of ethanol, we have to produce sites to distribute that ethanol. If we go the route of hydrogen, for which possibly the first commercially available vehicles would be in 2010, then we obviously have to have a hydrogen infrastructure in place.
I'm guessing that those of you in the auto industry are not suggesting you're going to provide that infrastructure. Obviously, we would have to, or we would have to be part of it. You say “don't pick the winners”, yet by the same token we have to come to some conclusion about how we actually get these alternative fuels that you are telling us is the real meat of where we can get reductions and improve quality. How would we get that infrastructure in place if we're not picking winners or losers?