Yes, that's an expression that a lot of people use, and I guess we've used it too. People haven't been doing nothing; people are conscious of the need to invest in their plants. And I think we need some more encouragement in that area, by the way, and there are some tools that are available to governments. But a lot of the easy stuff, quite frankly, has been done, so we're now into the tougher slogging in terms of what needs to be done in the future.
