I think this has been really helpful. The whole point of this exercise was to demonstrate that in fact the things we're being told that won't work in Canada are actually working elsewhere. That is to say that Europe seems to be the furthest along among the industrial nations. It's the largest group of countries that is actively working towards greenhouse gas reduction and using the Kyoto Protocol in an active way, like the clean development mechanism.
I'm asking John Drexhage this question. Does it make sense, given the fact that Europe is the furthest along and the largest group of countries currently involved in this exercise, that we take our lessons there? That is to say that we probably want a cap-and-trade system rather than a carbon tax system because that's where Europe is, and that gives us a market to go to. We probably want to pick up on their experience in terms of the clean development mechanism, as Mr. Delbeke has described it--the working out of the bugs, the problem with the China factory, all the rest of it--because they're the furthest along. So the more our system looks like their system and lines up with that, we have a precedent and we have allies and we're part of a bigger system.