Evidence of meeting #1 for Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was witnesses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Michelle Tittley
Dara Lithwick  Committee Researcher

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Okay. That's fine. So it's six and two.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

What's the regular quorum right now?

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Do you want to explain that, Michelle?

9:15 a.m.

The Clerk

A committee's regular quorum is a simple majority, meaning 50% of the members plus one.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

So--

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

That's what I've just proposed.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Yes, so we don't need to have a reduced quorum routine motion, do we? Let's just not--

9:15 a.m.

An hon. member

Okay.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Mr. Del Mastro, you're withdrawing that motion?

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

No, I'm not. The motion is six members present and at least two members of the opposition. That's the motion on the floor.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Mr. Angus.

9:15 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

I would accept it if it says “a member from at least two opposition parties”. My concern is that I don't want to have a situation where a deal is made on the side, the meetings go ahead, and two members from one party sit in. Then that's an issue of us hijacking.... If a member from two opposition parties...I'm the only representative from the New Democrats and perhaps I'm caught in a snowstorm. I wouldn't want to hold up the meeting, but I certainly wouldn't want....

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Ms. Lavallée.

9:15 a.m.

Bloc

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

I am totally against a reduced quorum. I do not see the point of that motion. This is a legislative committee that will last a few months. We are all very motivated to attend each and every meeting. I cannot imagine that parties would not send their members to attend the meetings, especially when witnesses are present.

I am completely against any backroom deals between political parties to exclude another party. That does not make sense. Everyone must attend for there to be a quorum. That is how things work. There is no reason for there to be a reduced quorum.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Mr. Rodriguez.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

I do not understand why this motion should be so contentious. We do not mind if there is no reduced quorum.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Mr. Del Mastro.

9:20 a.m.

An hon. member

A simple majority.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

A simple majority? Is there agreement?

9:20 a.m.

An hon. member

A simple majority.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Okay. That's fine.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Okay. So there's no motion on reduced quorum.

Moving along to number 7: “Staff at in camera meetings”. That was one issue. Do we have a motion?

Mr. Del Mastro.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

I just move that we adopt Madame Lavallée's suggestion that a representative of each party's respective whip's office be allowed to attend.

9:20 a.m.

An hon. member

Agreed.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

All right.