Evidence of meeting #1 for Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was witnesses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Michelle Tittley
Dara Lithwick  Committee Researcher

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Okay. That's fine. So it's six and two.

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Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

What's the regular quorum right now?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Do you want to explain that, Michelle?

The Clerk

A committee's regular quorum is a simple majority, meaning 50% of the members plus one.

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Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

So--

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

That's what I've just proposed.

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Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Yes, so we don't need to have a reduced quorum routine motion, do we? Let's just not--

An hon. member

Okay.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Mr. Del Mastro, you're withdrawing that motion?

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

No, I'm not. The motion is six members present and at least two members of the opposition. That's the motion on the floor.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Mr. Angus.

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

I would accept it if it says “a member from at least two opposition parties”. My concern is that I don't want to have a situation where a deal is made on the side, the meetings go ahead, and two members from one party sit in. Then that's an issue of us hijacking.... If a member from two opposition parties...I'm the only representative from the New Democrats and perhaps I'm caught in a snowstorm. I wouldn't want to hold up the meeting, but I certainly wouldn't want....

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Ms. Lavallée.

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

I am totally against a reduced quorum. I do not see the point of that motion. This is a legislative committee that will last a few months. We are all very motivated to attend each and every meeting. I cannot imagine that parties would not send their members to attend the meetings, especially when witnesses are present.

I am completely against any backroom deals between political parties to exclude another party. That does not make sense. Everyone must attend for there to be a quorum. That is how things work. There is no reason for there to be a reduced quorum.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Mr. Rodriguez.

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

I do not understand why this motion should be so contentious. We do not mind if there is no reduced quorum.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Mr. Del Mastro.

An hon. member

A simple majority.

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

A simple majority? Is there agreement?

An hon. member

A simple majority.

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Okay. That's fine.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Okay. So there's no motion on reduced quorum.

Moving along to number 7: “Staff at in camera meetings”. That was one issue. Do we have a motion?

Mr. Del Mastro.

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

I just move that we adopt Madame Lavallée's suggestion that a representative of each party's respective whip's office be allowed to attend.

An hon. member

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

All right.