The basic principle we have to come back to and that we must not stray from for technical considerations is that the musical work belongs to its creator or creators. When I go to HMV to buy a CD, I'm not buying the music of the Colocs because that music doesn't belong to me. I'm buying the pleasure of listening to it on that CD. Then, when I get home, if I make a copy of it on my MP3 player, I should only have to pay royalties on the copy. Every time we make a copy or change formats, it seems to me that it's normal for us to pay royalties to the person who owns the musical work in question.
It's that principle that was established in 1997 when the decision was made to charge royalties for ephemeral recordings. The principle was established, and it has worked very well in the past 14 years. Revenues were given to artists and now you want to take them away.
When the representatives of the television community appeared—I don't know whether it was here or before the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage—they said they had essentially come to ask us for a copyright holiday. That makes no sense. They no longer wanted to pay royalties either for ephemeral recordings or for copyright, saying that they were a burden. It's not a burden, but an inventory. You never buy a musical work.