Evidence of meeting #16 for Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was radio.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Chair, Canadian Association of Broadcasters
The current act treats reproduction as a right that is separate from the communication right.
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Liberal
Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC
There are two different rights: reproduction and communication.
11:50 a.m.
Chair, Canadian Association of Broadcasters
Under the act, that's correct.
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Chair, Canadian Association of Broadcasters
That's not what we want. Mr. Rodriguez, we're saying that certain reproductions are made for financial reasons. If I made a copy of a book and I sold it, that copy would earn me money. In that case, I would have to pay; that's obvious. However, we're talking about a technical reproduction on which I make no money. I'm not engaging in promotion by doing that; it's simply to facilitate matters.
11:50 a.m.
Liberal
Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC
Nevertheless you need to do it in order to operate your business; you need that reproduction; otherwise you can't play music.
11:50 a.m.
Chair, Canadian Association of Broadcasters
I need music in order to play it, of course, but I consider it unheard of that this should apply to the act of changing formats, as Mr. Del Mastro said. If I buy a CD and I transfer it to my iPod, I don't want to pay a second time. That's a good analogy.
11:50 a.m.
Chair, Canadian Association of Broadcasters
We pay $64 million a year; I don't think that's as little as possible.
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Liberal
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Chair, Canadian Association of Broadcasters
You're considering that separately from all our other payments.
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Liberal
11:50 a.m.
Chair, Canadian Association of Broadcasters
We're not talking about the communication right.
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Chair, Canadian Association of Broadcasters
I'm a lawyer; mathematics isn't my strong suit?
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Lawyer, Canadian Association of Broadcasters
We have the $64-million payment for the communication right.
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Chair, Canadian Association of Broadcasters
What percentage of our revenues does that represent...radio industry?
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Lawyer, Canadian Association of Broadcasters
As a percentage of revenue--
11:50 a.m.
Chair, Canadian Association of Broadcasters
This is separate from all our other payments.
11:50 a.m.
Liberal
Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC
Yes, I know, but I'm asking the question; that's my right.