Thank you, Mr. Chair. Certainly we'd echo your comments on that.
I would just point out to committee members that we have committee business scheduled in the second hour of the meeting, so certainly we could have these discussions then. I think a lot of this is simply a symptom of the committee's not meeting often enough, and many of the witnesses are also trying to game the system a bit. They all want to be last. That's why it's difficult for the clerk to schedule meetings.
So for what it's worth, I would just propose that we move to committee business. We can come back to these discussions once we've heard from the witnesses who are here today.