I would add, in this regard, that internationally, Canada can't afford to be the caboose in the train of development of digital technologies. We're very, very far behind. I've cited the case of the U.K., and there are several other parallel ones that could be cited as well. We would be building in more and more restrictions, whereas other folks are opening up their materials that have been largely....
Apart from textbooks, almost all the research is done by university professors and graduate students as part of, say, partial requirements for their degrees or as part of their salaried work. They don't make a great amount of money. If you've ever published with the University Press in Canada, you know that the going rate is 10% beyond cost, and the cost has already been subsidized. You're getting only a tiny fraction. I did one a few years ago that was published by two collaborators. The two of us each got 5%.
So the $23,000 being cited there is not really the central figure. The large dollar amounts are going to publishers or bureaucracies that are created around collective licensing agencies and....