I'm going to continue with the answer to the question.
Thank you for being here.
Your current appeal from the Federal Court of Appeal, which found that the tariff, the rate, was in fact correct, has led you to talk about more than just money. You've said that this is not about money. Your appeal suggests that the current law of interpretation of fair dealing is “confusing and unclear”.
Am I to take it that the six-step test of the Supreme Court of Canada in CCH is not acceptable? Are you looking for something free here that you wouldn't otherwise get, say, in snow-plowing contracts or looking for free computers? I'm confused by the position taken by your organization. It sounds to me that you would prefer to obtain things for free that would otherwise respect some of the property rights that Mr. Fast alluded to earlier.