Evidence of meeting #4 for Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was list.

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4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

This is from the party that will vote against the budget to try to force an election at every turn. That's not responsible, Charlie.

The bottom line is that we have a list. Now, I've proposed two people for Wednesday. If you'd like to propose a third, rather than insulting one of the ones I've proposed, that's great and I'm agreeable to that.

I've suggested that we have a witness list. I'm happy to hear from all of them. I'm happy to take more additions. Let's meet more often. I don't think that's an outrageous request. I think it's reasonable, and it's not suggesting there will be an election any time soon.

Timely passage of this legislation will create jobs, draw investment, and get us on better terms with trading partners, all of which is a desired outcome of people on the committee. That's the point.

And yes, I'm frustrated.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

We started so well today.

4:20 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

You're still doing an excellent job.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Thank you, Mr. Angus. I appreciate your support of the chair. But I would like to see us having some sort of work plan moving forward.

We do have agreement that Geist, Sookman, and D'Agostino are in the first hour. The second hour will be the Copyright Board of Canada and the Access Copyright group. Is that what the committee sees for Wednesday? Is there anyone else in the second hour that's part of the copyright?

Mr. Del Mastro.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Yes, on the copyright I have the Canadian Musical Reproduction Rights Agency Ltd., the Canadian Private Copying Collective, and the Copyright Board of Canada.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

We already have the Copyright Board.

I'm trying to work through the second hour of Wednesday afternoon. I have the Copyright Board of Canada, the Access to Copyright group....

Mr. Del Mastro, what was the other one?

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

I had the Copyright Board of Canada, the Canadian Musical Reproduction Rights Agency Ltd., and the Canadian Private Copying Collective.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Okay.

Is there a consensus that we take those four groups in the second hour?

Madame Lavallée.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

You're going too fast.

Who will we be hearing from during the first hour? I didn't hear.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

The first hour would be Geist, Sookman, D'Agostino.

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Bloc

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

Mr. Sookman?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Sookman.

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Bloc

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

And the third witness is Ms. D'Agostino; is that correct?

Unless I'm mistaken, in the second hour, we'll have the Copyright Board of Canada. It's name in French is the Commission du droit d'auteur du Canada. Is that correct?

I just want to be sure because I'm not sure of the translation.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Yes, the Canadian Copyright Board, Access Copyright—

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

Just a moment, please; I want to be sure of the translation.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Okay, we'll slow down.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

After that, there are errors of interpretation and some people interpret our remarks.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

We don't want that.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

No, I don't want that.

The Copyright Board.

Name it for me in English and I'm going to look. So there's the Copyright Board of Canada.

Then what's the second one, in English?

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Access Copyright. It's the first one on your list.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

Access Copyright; that's not the same organization then? I want to be sure that it is in fact that organization we're talking about.

And who would be the third witness?

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Mr. Del Mastro, the title of the third one was what again?

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

We can meet with the Canadian Private Copying Collective, if you'd like.

That's three. If you'd like to meet the fourth that I suggested, then we should extend the meeting by at least ten minutes to allow for their statement.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Why don't we go with—

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Let's take those three.

The Canadian Private Copying Collective,

in French, that's the Société canadienne de perception de la copie privée.