It absolutely covers DARs, what we call digital audio recorders. When we asked for a levy on them, even the Federal Court of Appeal said it was really clear that they were devices ordinarily used to copy music. Unfortunately, the terms of the law don't allow us to apply a levy because they're not media; they're devices. So it's definitive that DARs are ordinarily used to copy music. I can assure you of that.
When I was asked about the chips that you put into BlackBerrys...it is difficult for me to say. I would tend to say yes, but then it's not for me to say yes or no. But in the case of the DARs, this is clearly a yes, and the Federal Court of Appeal has mentioned this.