First, I think it's interesting to see that although Australia has been even more outspoken than we are and is more exposed, it's not clear that it has suffered economically. China often encourages us to fear the worst, but I think over the long haul we have what China needs, so I'm a little bit less concerned about that.
If we look at things like China's demands in the case of Ms. Meng Wanzhou, saying yes to a “prisoner exchange”, which is again a form of normalizing what China has done, would essentially make it more likely rather than less likely that China would do the same thing to us again in the future. It's just unacceptable.