Several states have very sophisticated tools, both technical and human, for espionage and interference. We mentioned that China was one of these countries. There are several others, unfortunately, that have the ability, the interest and, sometimes, the opportunity to conduct espionage in Canada.
The measures we take must be one hundred per cent effective. We must always block everything. It is a constant battle, a constant struggle. We are playing a kind of cat and mouse game. We are trying to find the next place where information will be stolen. This is what we are doing with our partners in the Canadian government and the Five Eyes countries.