Thank you very much.
I'm not familiar with that particular aspect of it, so I'll move to another question, if you don't mind.
One thing our committee has talked about quite a bit over the past year, because we've been operating since then, was on concerns about China's not wanting to follow the rules-based international order. How do we get it to do that? That's with a lot of things, not just the arbitrary detention of individuals like Mr. Spavor and Mr. Kovrig, which is part of it, but in general terms not following the rules, whether on trade and investment or the other things we were just talking about.
I'd like your advice on this. What I hear you say is that they're trying to create new norms, whether that be human rights being watered down, different ways of engaging with other nations and that sort of thing. Is this something we can actually influence in some way with the help and coordination of other nations, or are we in a gridlock on that as well?