Thank you, Chair.
Ms. Bartholomew, your interchange with Mr. Genuis interested me in that you seem to have a slightly different view from Mr. Genuis, who seems to think that we—i.e., the democracies—must get together and stave off China and its friends. You suggested a little bit more of a nuanced response to that in terms of not disengaging totally with China, obviously, but also in making sure that we're engaged with other players to convince them, or to work with them, to develop better norms. Could you elaborate on that a little bit, please?