Thank you.
I see the chair giving me the one-minute finger here.
I'll put the question out there and I think part of it has been answered. We hear the University of Alberta, for example, declining to discuss its research activities with China other than to say it has received no directives from the federal government to stop its engagement with Chinese institutions. Meanwhile, CSIS says all the time that they're engaging academia in guidance and guidelines and all of that. There seems to be a disconnect in that story.