That's a good question. I actually think the number is closer to 200,000. The PRC embassy says 170,000-plus, and I think that's closer to the truth.
Very quickly, for students, we don't know the effect yet, but roughly a million Chinese students are abroad at any given time. We don't know what the long-term effects of that will be. It took one Chinese person, Sun Yat-sen, to help bring down the Qing dynasty. We don't know what the effect will be of the millions of Chinese who travel abroad and who come to this country. About a third of them stay here and about two-thirds go back. Buried within that are ideas they've been exposed to; young people are rather receptive to new ideas. On balance, I'd say it's a good thing.
However, we don't want our universities to be completely dependent on Chinese funding. That's a given, but on balance, that openness.... We can, I believe, protect intellectual property and protect our national security by perhaps controlling the programs in which some students are allowed to participate, and perhaps only opening them to Canadian nationals or to certain nationalities, but I think closing the door would actually in the long run serve to strengthen the hold of the Communist Party of China on its people. I think that exposure is a good thing.