On some points, I agree with Professor Ong. We should be discussing these issues a lot more than we currently do in Canada.
If Canadians do not accept that Canada has a problem with China or other countries, you and your fellow parliamentarians will have a very hard time changing legislation. It will be even harder for national security agencies to be proactive. The issue has to be talked about in order to arrive at something of a national consensus.
As I was saying to Mr. Harris, whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant. What matters is having exposure to a wide range of perspectives in order for that consensus to emerge.