Thank you for asking this question, which is not asked often.
The answer is yes. I am in regular contact with their families. In Michael Spavor's case, I am in contact with his father, Stan, his brother, Paul, and his two sisters. I am in contact with all four of them. The same goes for Michael Kovrig.
I would say that this is probably my most difficult task. I report to them on the situation. We have consular access, and the families really want to know how things are going. They actually mostly want to know whether progress has been made in terms of our efforts to get them released.
Those conversations can be difficult because, as you know, the two Michaels have been in prison for more than 900 days. Maintaining this contact is absolutely essential. They are suffering a great deal. I would also say that many Canadians are suffering, as we have lost two citizens who are very dear to us.