Okay, thank you.
Today, I'd like to underscore certain things that guided our reflection.
First, investing in a non-Western, non-democratic country, whether China or any other, always comes with its share of unforeseen challenges in terms of adherence to the standards and values of democratic Western countries like Canada. This must always be taken into account.
Then you have to talk about the opacity of the Chinese regime. My colleague perhaps has a more external view, whereas we work much more internally. We're interested in the structure of the party-state, how people think, how the structure reacts, what happens inside the party. It's a slightly different view.
The way we see it, it's always going to be fundamentally impossible to control all the risks associated with the values aspect or to fully guard against the risks associated with the central issue of today's topic, which is human rights.
That leaves us with two broad avenues. We can avoid investing, which shields us from the entire risk—