It would have been great if we had joined Quad and AUKUS. That would have made us a very different profile in the region.
I'd also like to bring up something that hasn't been brought up, which does seriously affect our security profile in the region. It's Canada's relationship with India. India had a very successful G20 meeting. It has very deep and growing relationships with Japan. We obviously have our problems with India, but the loud problems with India.... The Indo-Pacific, or at least a big chunk of it, is India's turf, not Canada's turf. If we have problems with India, then it becomes a problem for Canada.
The other thing I'd say in terms of security, as mentioned in my opening, is that right now a lot of the problems are on the political warfare level and have to do with corruption. Many of these countries need lawyers more than they need warships. They need people to go after Chinese organized crime, to go through financial records and help figure out who's getting paid off.
That sort of thing we could do quite easily. We could send over experts from various other Canadian government agencies or ministries to help them clean up their systems. Unless we do that, unless we can get rid of the corruption or at least minimize Chinese corruption, that's the blocking...and we won't be able to build anything else that's effective.