Thank you, Chair.
Thanks to both of you for sharing your expertise with us tonight.
Professor Lilly, I want to give you a chance to help me with the notion of not being afraid of China as a trading partner and then your subsequent comment about weaponizing trade, as they have done in the past. You didn't use that word, but they have weaponized trade a number of times with Canada on a number of products—mostly western Canadian products, but not completely.
Help me with the one about opening availability and recognizing the reality of China while also recognizing that we have a problem past, and then all of the other issues you mentioned, like labour and forced labour.