Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to thank the witnesses for being here with us today.
Minister, you've been in the government for a long time now and you are, if I may put it that way, one of Mr. Trudeau's closest confidants.
I've been wondering when, in our relations with China, we became naive. Apart from what happened with the Winnipeg lab, we know that China has been active for a long time. It used to be called espionage rather than interference, perhaps. And yet for a long time, we had close relations with China and were definitely keen on developing partnerships. When specifically do you feel we were naive in this process?