Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I have some more questions for you, Minister. I have only two and a half minutes, which is not very long. So if possible, please keep your answers short.
I'm getting back to the topic of our naïveté. When did the government realize that things were not right? Was it in 2019, because of the incident at the National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg? Or was it rather because of the controversy over the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation? Could it have been because of another incident? Where was the tipping point signalling that the times and the relations had changed?