Yes, absolutely.
If I'd had the opportunity to finish my speech, I would have told you that we must fight Chinese interference at all costs, not only within the Chinese community in Canada, but also in our institutions, including our political institutions.
The Chinese use all sorts of ways to create interference. They take advantage of the fact that we are an open society. There are Chinese dailies that run full-page ads. They're given access to our media. But, of course, there is no reciprocity. I think that we have to be much more vigilant in this regard.