Okay.
When it comes to, specifically, the Indo-Pacific, we have one major port, although I know there are a lot of conversations, in fact, that I've had with some of your organizations about expanding that. The World Bank had S&P do a report on port efficiencies. I know that my Liberal colleagues like to talk about S&P a lot, so I hope they will note this in particular. In the context of this report, the port of Vancouver—you can see it highlighted there—ranks 347 out of 348 when it comes to port efficiency.
To the witnesses here at the end of the table, is that concerning in terms of Canada's potential—when we are ranked so low when it comes to efficiencies of such a critical part of Canada's transportation infrastructure, which is essential to making sure that your members, those involved with your organizations, and the many producers you all represent are able to get their products to market?
I'll start with Mr. Harvey, and we'll keep it fairly short.