Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to continue on with some of the questions my colleague Mr. Erskine-Smith has been asking of Ms. Joseph.
It's interesting for me, as well, to listen to this back and forth, because I was part of a delegation that went and met with the German government last year. They spoke about their desire for Canadian natural gas, but they also spoke about that as a short-term thing they needed to help with the crisis in Ukraine and the illegal invasion by Russia. It wasn't a long-term goal for them. Long term, they have much more interest in hydrogen and renewables, and much less interest in gas. However, building the infrastructure so we can actually develop those relationships over natural gas takes a very long time and is extraordinarily expensive. If we had it now, that would be one thing. Without it, I'm cautious about the idea.
You're Energy for a Secure Future, but it doesn't seem like you have as much openness to renewable energy and the various forms of hydrogen. How does this fit into energy for a secure future in the region?
I also want to point out that it feels to me as if we can't look at energy transition as a straight trajectory. There is going to be a difference in how renewables and actual clean energy come online. I agree with you that we need energy for the world.
I'm wondering if you could respond to that.