It's absolutely hydrogen and natural gas. Some of the first hydrogen that's going to come on to the market and is starting to be developed in projects, including in Alberta, is blue hydrogen in projects that benefit from the carbon capture capacity, resource and geology, and can be exported as ammonia. That's an option that also exists in the east, if people want to pursue it. In eastern Canada, there are a lot of goals around green hydrogen and the use of wind to produce that.
There is no and/or, because the goal is more. What is going to fill that need for human access to affordable, reliable energy that countries are not compromising on?