The Indo‑Pacific strategies of Canada and the United States emphasize the central role of ASEAN, the Association of Southeast Asian Nations. However, in November 2023, on the United States Institute of Peace website, you said that the United States perceived a lack of interest in Southeast Asian countries seeking to engage with them economically and diplomatically.
How can we reconcile this idea that, in the context of the American Indo‑Pacific strategy, ASEAN would play a central role and the lack of interest you perceived on the part of the United States in ASEAN?