Thank you.
My next question is for both of you, and it builds on that one because we've been hearing conflicting testimony tonight. Ms. McPherson raised it as well.
We've been hearing.... One witness tonight said that we should have no diplomatic relations with China, but then also said that we should reconstruct our relationship with China, so I'm kind of confused as to what he really meant. However, last week a professor from Queen's told us that it's not a question of whether or not we have a relationship with China—because it exists, it's large, and it is influential—it's how we have a relationship with China.
I'm just trying to understand that, because in the context of health, we also heard tonight that it was absolutely critical for the health of our global population that we find a way to work with China because of its significance in issues of health. We also hear that we should withdraw from or sometimes actually isolate China.
For both of you, I'm just trying to work out that dichotomy. I'm on dichotomies tonight. I have about a minute and a bit for both of you to comment on that.