Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to thank all the witnesses.
I'm probably going to focus a little bit on Professors Murphy and Dufour because I'm trying to sort out in my head a spectrum of activity. First of all, I don't think there's going to be any disagreement around this table that we have a problem in our world with the integrity of supply chain and the contribution of commerce and trade to internment, forced labour and surveillance of Uighurs, as well as other people.
I'm trying to understand the best approach out of that. There's a spectrum, from disclosure—and I did a bill on pension fund disclosure in 2009—through to due diligence, through to the French model of the duty of vigilance. I'm trying to understand that, because even though you mentioned the Netherlands and another country, I believe France is the only country that has actually instituted that concept of duty of vigilance and I've also read reports that it may not be effective.
Perhaps the two of you could comment on a range of options we could recommend as well as the effectiveness and the practicality of enforcing each one.
Thank you.
Professor Murphy can go first and perhaps Professor Dufour after that.