Okay. Thank you.
I must thank both of you for coming today and giving us some insight. I know we have some new members on this committee. There are some people who have been through the copyright mill before. It's very complicated. I was part of the interim report on copyright reform in 2004, and I'm quite sure there are things that have changed even from then until now.
So thank you again for enlightening us today, with some apprehension, on what's here. We look forward to seeing you again in another couple of meetings.
Let's take a recess for a few minutes.