Evidence of meeting #15 for Canadian Heritage in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was angus.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Does anyone else like to speak on the motion?

Mr. Angus.

3:55 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

I'm not clear, is he voting against the idea of having witnesses, or is he saying it's because we would need to have witnesses in order to make this motion pass?

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

That's what I don't want to happen.

3:55 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

I think we could vote, and it's going to be pretty clear one way or another.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Let's make it separate motions then.

3:55 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Okay, we'll make it separate motions.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

If you're going to make a separate motion, the clerk will talk to you on that. What we'll do, I would say right now with no more debate, is we will vote on the motion. The motion is:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage recommend that the government continue funding the Court Challenges Program at the fiscal 2005-2006 level and that the Chair report the adoption of this motion to the House forthwith.

(Motion agreed to)

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

I have a question, Mr. Chair.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Yes, Mr. Bélanger.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Can you give the committee an indication as to whether or not we will be tabling a report on these motions tomorrow?

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

I will have to check with my clerk first.

Mr. Bélanger, it is reported that I will be reporting this to the House tomorrow.

Mr. Angus has also made a motion:

That the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage invite witnesses from organizations that have utilized the Court Challenges Program.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

That's a notice of motion, because we need 48 hours' notice for this.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Since our next item of business is future business of the committee, perhaps we can dispose of it at that time if there's insistence on the 48 hours' notice.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Okay.

Mr. Abbott.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Jim Abbott Conservative Kootenay—Columbia, BC

It seems to me that one of the reasons for the 48 hours' notice is so that members of the committee have the opportunity to ponder the implications. Without getting into debate on Mr. Angus' motion, I would like to have that time to give consideration to his motion.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Mr. Angus.

4 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

I would normally say that waiting 48 hours is perfectly fine, but we're being asked to make decisions to fill up our calendar after we finish with these motions. I'm not very comfortable making any commitments on that until I know what's going to happen with that motion. If we have to wait 48 hours, then we should wait 48 hours to make any other decision on filling up our calendar leading up to the November break.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Mr. Abbott.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Jim Abbott Conservative Kootenay—Columbia, BC

So be it.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Mr. Bélanger.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

I don't want to prejudge anything, but are we going to be discussing the future business of the committee in camera?

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

It's the committee's decision.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

The committee made that decision, if I recall, at the start of this Parliament. No? I thought we had. We'll have to check that, because we've changed clerks in the meantime.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

I thought it was motion number 10, “that unless otherwise ordered, each committee member...”. It seems like a similar motion.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Anyhow, we're going to be debating that, so if the motion requires 48 hours' notice, and that seems to be the will of the government members, let's move on and deal with future business.