—with heavy-handed government, when you had more interference in subscriber fees and more interference in industry. That's why I find it somewhat unfortunate that we find ourselves discussing this today at this committee, when in fact there is clearly a history of trade-offs and quid pro quos that actually resulted in a program that I believe has served Canadians well during the period of time it's been in existence.
On February 15th, 2007. See this statement in context.