I guess I'd have to challenge you on that, because your predecessor was here. Mr. Jim Abbott said on the record that the CRTC takes its direction from the minister. He said that to Mr. Dalfen, and Mr. Dalfen did not challenge that. Mr. Abbott said that's the way it is. That's been the very clear understanding, that this government is giving direction to the CRTC.
So now we have a situation that has been a major political blowout. We've had two companies that have publicly defied, spoken again and again in their public attack, and now suddenly the CRTC is having to meet in private with them to protect anybody from fear of retribution.
There's a major public interest here, and I'm trying to get a sense of the CRTC's role in this if you're doing this behind closed doors.