Order.
Welcome to our next presenters.
Before we start, I will mention that Ms. Savoie has had to leave to catch a heli-flight. I think she has a meeting coming up very shortly. I'd like to let you know that although we're diminished in numbers around the table, all of the questions and answers are being kept track of here, and they will go back to the rest of our committee. There will be a report made and everything. So you're just as important as the first people who were here this morning.
Again, I apologize for Ms. Savoie having to leave, and I welcome you here.
We will start off with Catherine Murray from Simon Fraser University. Then Mr. Norman Hill will be speaking as an individual, and Pedro Mora on behalf of the Vancouver Community Television Association.
Your presentation, please, Ms. Murray.