I'd have to agree with you. Spoken-word content is one, and the CBC is quite well placed in that domain, with the changing world.
As recently as last December, we published our revised regulatory framework for private conventional radio. We found that the key to private radio is the localism of the service. They are doing very well right now.
It's to be mindful of the situation that, yes, the Internet, Internet streaming, and different forms of products are certainly being made available, but right now the key to over-the-air radio, primarily FM, is the local content. You hear your local news. It's one of the only or one of the few areas where you can hear the local news, and it is mobile. They are thriving right now in that domain.
Broadcasters are doing very well, both on the balance sheet and on the listenership front, and the same would apply to the public broadcaster.