The CBC Toronto show has a very small listenership in Hamilton, I think because of the irrelevance of much of what is covered on CBC Toronto. There's wonderful music and interesting traffic reports, and those sorts of things, but it really doesn't have the Hamilton content. I'll go as far as saying that Ontario Morning covers a lot of rural areas and other communities across the province, such as London, and particularly southwestern Ontario, and it has a lot more Hamilton content.
We, of course, don't have access to Ontario Morning in our jurisdiction. We've actually had discussions with CBC and asked them, if they were to get a frequency in Hamilton in the short term—if, say, an AM frequency became available—to put Ontario Morning, the Ontario show, on the Hamilton station.
The talk radio show I mentioned, CHML in Hamilton, is the one that people listen to in the mornings, rather than CBC Toronto.
Maybe, Sonja, you could add to that.