Yes. But what I think is happening is the commercial broadcasters are of course using every means they can to reduce their program expenses for Canadian programming. They do that partly by reducing the licence fees. They do it partly because they have access to certain kinds of public sector benefits, public subsidy benefits like the CTF. So they take advantage of those.
The problem is that with that money they get by pushing down the domestic licence fees, they take that money and spend it like drunken sailors in Los Angeles, hundred and hundreds of millions of dollars. Our concern is that they shouldn't be spending so much down there. In Los Angeles it's an auction. It's not like it is a car with a set price. It's like it is a car with a price that will go up as high as two or three people will push it. Consequently, Canada, as a whole, spends more money on American programming than any other country in the world. The English Canadian broadcasters spend more. I'm thinking of the off-air broadcasters especially. It's an area that no one is paying attention to—like the CRTC—in my mind. Something that has to be looked at very carefully is how can we repatriate those production dollars.