Again on the governance issue, I think it is important for us. Mr. Fast referenced the question of credentials and qualifications, and I'm very impressed, frankly, for what it's worth. We're exploring new ways of doing these kinds of appointments. We're exploring them within the context of the CBC and we're exploring them as a government. I think it's a healthy thing. I don't think anyone should apologize for engaging in the political process, frankly, and for what it's worth, that's my view.
Having said that, one of the issues is the relationship between this committee and the government in terms of these appointments. We're here to talk about credentials and so on, but we're not the first blush at that. We have to know about the process so that we can understand how the decision was made.
For instance, again on process, when you were interviewed, was the Department of Heritage represented in that exercise?