I was also pleased to hear in your remarks that you're not committed to turning back the clock on commercialization. As you probably know, divergent views have been presented at this table regarding CBC's commercialization. There are some who believe that CBC should be free of any advertising and others who believe that advertising is a reality today, and that if we remove it, government is then simply replacing commercial dollars with government dollars and isn't actually moving CBC ahead in any way.
I was pleased to hear that, but it's always a matter of balance. I agree with some of the comments around this table that there's truly a distinction between CBC radio and CBC television. I agree with the comment from Mr. Scarpaleggia that in fact CBC radio is more like a friend. When I'm driving back from hiking, as I did just last week, pretty well the only station I could get was CBC radio. Listening to Vinyl Cafe was just a wonderful experience. Again, it's like having a friend next door and having a chat over some of these cultural issues, including music.
How do you find a balance? Do you have any idea how you're going to provide a balance between the commercial aspect of CBC and its role as a public broadcaster, which should not be subsumed under this weight of commercialization?