We can get into a debate on how important ratings are in the whole process, but you talked about CBC radio being number one in markets. You have a unique model with CBC radio. I know there's heavy listenership, especially...I'm much more familiar with what's going on in eastern Ontario.
On the other hand, specifically talking about Ottawa, your television news I think is a distant third in terms of ratings. Why do you think it's so successful on the radio side and not so successful on the television side?